Removing data
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Removing data
One of my Meteohub system the data file is all most running out of space, system info tells me that 2712 MB of the 2903 MB is used and each month is about 95 MB of data so I have about two months to go.
Can I just move the raw data files of each month of 2009 to another location as backup so the data file has more space available?
Or do I have to remove the data with the data inspect option? (just move the data is much easier)
Can I just move the raw data files of each month of 2009 to another location as backup so the data file has more space available?
Or do I have to remove the data with the data inspect option? (just move the data is much easier)
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Re: Removing data
My experience is that you can just remove those files. Best to stop logging before doing so, and afterwards force a full recomputation of the data.
You can also think about a bigger memorycard. I'm running an Alix board with 8Gb:
You can also think about a bigger memorycard. I'm running an Alix board with 8Gb:
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meteohub:~# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 756M 512M 207M 72% /
tmpfs 122M 0 122M 0% /lib/init/rw
udev 10M 40K 10M 1% /dev
tmpfs 122M 0 122M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 6.1G 1.1G 4.8G 19% /data
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Re: Removing data
My system is running under VMware, is there a method to expand the size of the image and the size of the datafile? Disk space enough!
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Re: Removing data
Yes, it should be possible to expand the size of the data filesystem; I've done it myself on my Alix.
The embarrassing thing is that:
- I did make notes, since I was sure that somebody would ask for this one of these days
- I misplaced the notes in a miserable way, and can't find them.
The key is that you will need physical diskspace directly beyond the current data filesystem, or in your case, you might have just a bigger spot on your virtual VM disk. In that case it would be just a matter of creating a new filesystem, move all the data over and mount the new filesystem at the /data mountpoint.
I will try to look a bit further and see if I can retriev my notes somewhere. In that case I will get back....
The embarrassing thing is that:
- I did make notes, since I was sure that somebody would ask for this one of these days
- I misplaced the notes in a miserable way, and can't find them.
The key is that you will need physical diskspace directly beyond the current data filesystem, or in your case, you might have just a bigger spot on your virtual VM disk. In that case it would be just a matter of creating a new filesystem, move all the data over and mount the new filesystem at the /data mountpoint.
I will try to look a bit further and see if I can retriev my notes somewhere. In that case I will get back....
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I hope you can find your notes, please let me know if so.
I found how to expand the pre allocated disk size for VMware, it's 10GB now but the message I've got was that I have to repartition the guest operating system.
I hope your notes can tell me how to do that
I found how to expand the pre allocated disk size for VMware, it's 10GB now but the message I've got was that I have to repartition the guest operating system.
I hope your notes can tell me how to do that

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Any body a idea how to expand the data file of the image under VMware??
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Ok, I've miserably misplaced my notes with all the screen output, so I guess we have to do this in an interactive way. (I've got a shell history, so that helps a bit.
Let's 1st gather some information:
2 notes upfront:
- At the moment we are just gathering information so no danger, later on you might loose data, so a backup is recommended. For VMware that will be easy, just make a copy of all the vmdk files and other that make up your environment.
- If one has no clue about Linux don't even start trying to do this, I won't be responsible anyway.
Get info about the filesystems:
# df
# df -h
we're going to expand the /data filesystem, so make a note of the /dev/hda device
# fdisk -s /dev/hda????
The size of the slice reported by fdisk should be the same as the size reported by the df command (hopefully)
Last step gathering information, print out the current partition table:
# fdisk -l
The above is my current table (already expanded) if you look closely you see:
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 928 cylinders -> 928 cylinders is the total size
In this case all of my current filesystems are using the entire disk (1-98, 99-123, 124-928).
I expect that in your case there will be either a spare partition or some unallocated space directly beyond the partition that holds the /data filesystem.
Can you share some output, and then we continue from there.
Let's 1st gather some information:
2 notes upfront:
- At the moment we are just gathering information so no danger, later on you might loose data, so a backup is recommended. For VMware that will be easy, just make a copy of all the vmdk files and other that make up your environment.
- If one has no clue about Linux don't even start trying to do this, I won't be responsible anyway.
Get info about the filesystems:
# df
# df -h
we're going to expand the /data filesystem, so make a note of the /dev/hda device
# fdisk -s /dev/hda????
The size of the slice reported by fdisk should be the same as the size reported by the df command (hopefully)
Last step gathering information, print out the current partition table:
# fdisk -l
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Disk /dev/hda: 7633 MB, 7633575936 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 928 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 98 787153+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 99 123 200812+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 124 928 6466162+ 83 Linux
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 928 cylinders -> 928 cylinders is the total size
In this case all of my current filesystems are using the entire disk (1-98, 99-123, 124-928).
I expect that in your case there will be either a spare partition or some unallocated space directly beyond the partition that holds the /data filesystem.
Can you share some output, and then we continue from there.
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Thanks for the info but it looks like if the fdisk command is not implemented in VMware image.
All the fdisk commands are replied with -bash fdisk: command not found
All the fdisk commands are replied with -bash fdisk: command not found
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Are you logged in as root?
Normally the root prompt is #, while a regular user is identified with a $ prompt.
type "id" to find out
Normally the root prompt is #, while a regular user is identified with a $ prompt.
type "id" to find out
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OK, logged in as root, this is what I get
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Ok, looks much better.
In the mean time I've decided to get a VMware machine up and running and document the process (hopefully tonight), so if you have some patience you will get the entire procedure, otherwise pm.
In the mean time I've decided to get a VMware machine up and running and document the process (hopefully tonight), so if you have some patience you will get the entire procedure, otherwise pm.
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0) Make sure that you first read the entire procedure before even starting
I've tried to make this as descriptive as possible, but your specific setup might be different
You will need to be able to use some basic *NIX commands
Don't blame me if something goes wrong, but do report back to me if you feel that something is missing
Make sure that you verify the device id's and partition table entries, your setup might vary slightly, which means that the commands will be slightly different as well
00 ) Physical setup
--- For VMWare, simply grow the virtual disk in the vmware configuration: -- For other systems, just get a bigger memory card/stick, configure meteohub on the smaller stick, and then grow
Start of the procedure
1) Disable meteohub auto startup
2) reboot meteohub
3) Check if /data is not used anymore:
result -> no process id listed
4) Verify where /data is located:
5) Assuming there are no process id returned, you can unmount /data
6)Verify data is unmounted
result -> /data is NOT displayed
7) Check the current partition table:
As you can see the total disksize is 1044 cylinders (approx 8GB) and we are only using 1 - 522
Also, in step 4 we've learned that /data is using /dev/hda3
Since /dev/hda3 ends on cylinder 522 we can grow it to cylinder 1044
8 ) Let's do a sanity check on the /data filesystem
9) As far as I know we can't grow an ext3 filesystem, so we need to convert to ext2 (and later convert back)
This command effectively removes the journal and makes it a ext2 fileystem
10) Make sure you have a backup, until now nothing has really changed - point of no return
11) 1st we are going to change the partition table and grow the partition that /data lives in to the max
11a) start fdisk in interactive mode
11b) Print the current partition table
11c) Delete the /dev/hda3 (see step 4) partition entry (this does NOT delete your data)
11d) Verify that it is gone
11e) Now add the parttion again with "n"
11f) This is a primary partition, select "p"
11g) And we were using 3, so let's choose that again "3'
11h) Accept the defaults, fdisk will automatically choose the 1st available Cylinder and grow to the last
11i) And verify our work
11j) All looks good, and our new partition is now 7213185 blocks (~7GB), so let's write the partition table "w"
11k) The kernel is still using the old partition table, this is normal, you can't just change stuff on the fly
12) Make sure that /data is not mounted during the reboot:
I use vi, but you can use another editor if you want:
and change:
/dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
into
# /dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
13) Reboot Meteohub and get the new partition table activated
14) Check that /data is NOT mounted
Result -> /data is NOT listed
15) Verify our new partition table
16) Conduct a forced filesystem check on our old (small) /data filesystem before we grow it
17) Now we are ready to resize, by default linux will use the entire parttion, which will make our command very straightforward:
Don't panic on the size reported, yes it is 4 time smaller when compared with the fdisk output, but remember that fdisk reports 1k and a filesystem is using 4k blocks
18) Let's do a sanity check on our resized filesystem
19) And convert it in a ext3 filesystem by adding the journal
20) Check if we can mount the filesystem
21) And check the new size
22) Since everything looks well, let's reverse our action step 12 and enable mounting of /data during bootup
I use vi, but you can use another editor if you want:
and change:
# /dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
into
/dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
23) Also re-enable the automatic startup of all system/meteohub processes
24) reboot meteohub
25) Verify the GUI after the reboot
I've tried to make this as descriptive as possible, but your specific setup might be different
You will need to be able to use some basic *NIX commands
Don't blame me if something goes wrong, but do report back to me if you feel that something is missing
Make sure that you verify the device id's and partition table entries, your setup might vary slightly, which means that the commands will be slightly different as well
00 ) Physical setup
--- For VMWare, simply grow the virtual disk in the vmware configuration: -- For other systems, just get a bigger memory card/stick, configure meteohub on the smaller stick, and then grow
Start of the procedure
1) Disable meteohub auto startup
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mv /etc/rc2.d/S20loggerd /etc/rc2.d/s20loggerd
mv /etc/rc2.d/S20meteonetd /etc/rc2.d/s20meteonetd
mv /etc/rc2.d/S20thttpd /etc/rc2.d/s20thttpd
mv /etc/rc2.d/S89cron /etc/rc2.d/s89cron
mv /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd /etc/rc2.d/s10sysklogd
mv /etc/rc2.d/S23ntp /etc/rc2.d/s23ntp
mv /etc/rc2.d/S20samba /etc/rc2.d/s20samba
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init 6
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cd /
fuser -c /data
4) Verify where /data is located:
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mount |grep data
/dev/hda3 on /data type ext3 (rw,noatime)
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umount /data
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mount |grep data
7) Check the current partition table:
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meteohub:/# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 8589 MB, 8589934592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1044 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 123 146 192780 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 147 522 3020220 83 Linux
Also, in step 4 we've learned that /data is using /dev/hda3
Since /dev/hda3 ends on cylinder 522 we can grow it to cylinder 1044
8 ) Let's do a sanity check on the /data filesystem
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meteohub:/# fsck -n /dev/hda3
fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
data: clean, 40/377856 files, 30066/755055 blocks
This command effectively removes the journal and makes it a ext2 fileystem
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meteohub:/# tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hda3
tune2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
11) 1st we are going to change the partition table and grow the partition that /data lives in to the max
11a) start fdisk in interactive mode
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meteohub:/# fdisk /dev/hda
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1044.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
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Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 8589 MB, 8589934592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1044 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 123 146 192780 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 147 522 3020220 83 Linux
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Command (m for help): d
Partition number (1-4): 3
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Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 8589 MB, 8589934592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1044 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 123 146 192780 82 Linux swap / Solaris
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Command (m for help): n
Command action
e extended
p primary partition (1-4)
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p
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Partition number (1-4): 3
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First cylinder (147-1044, default 147):
Using default value 147
Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (147-1044, default 1044):
Using default value 1044
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Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/hda: 8589 MB, 8589934592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1044 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 123 146 192780 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 147 1044 7213185 83 Linux
Command (m for help):
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Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!
Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
The kernel still uses the old table.
The new table will be used at the next reboot.
Syncing disks.
12) Make sure that /data is not mounted during the reboot:
I use vi, but you can use another editor if you want:
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vi /etc/fstab
/dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
into
# /dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
13) Reboot Meteohub and get the new partition table activated
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meteohub:~# init 6
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meteohub:~# mount |grep data
15) Verify our new partition table
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meteohub:~# fdisk -l /dev/hda
Disk /dev/hda: 8589 MB, 8589934592 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1044 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 123 146 192780 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 147 1044 7213185 83 Linux
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meteohub:~# e2fsck -f /dev/hda3
e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
data: 40/377856 files (2.5% non-contiguous), 13664/755055 blocks
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meteohub:~# resize2fs /dev/hda3
resize2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Resizing the filesystem on /dev/hda3 to 1803296 (4k) blocks.
The filesystem on /dev/hda3 is now 1803296 blocks long.
18) Let's do a sanity check on our resized filesystem
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meteohub:~# fsck -n /dev/hda3
fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
data: clean, 40/881664 files, 30030/1803296 blocks
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meteohub:~# tune2fs -j /dev/hda3
tune2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Creating journal inode: done
This filesystem will be automatically checked every 36 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
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meteohub:~# mount /dev/hda3 /data
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meteohub:~# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 942M 509M 386M 57% /
tmpfs 126M 0 126M 0% /lib/init/rw
udev 10M 52K 10M 1% /dev
tmpfs 126M 0 126M 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 8.0M 0 8.0M 0% /var/lock
tmpfs 16M 36K 16M 1% /var/run
tmpfs 16M 16K 16M 1% /var/log
/dev/hda3 6.8G 138M 6.4G 3% /data
I use vi, but you can use another editor if you want:
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vi /etc/fstab
# /dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
into
/dev/hda3 /data ext3 noatime 0 2
23) Also re-enable the automatic startup of all system/meteohub processes
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mv /etc/rc2.d/s20loggerd /etc/rc2.d/S20loggerd
mv /etc/rc2.d/s20meteonetd /etc/rc2.d/S20meteonetd
mv /etc/rc2.d/s20thttpd /etc/rc2.d/S20thttpd
mv /etc/rc2.d/s89cron /etc/rc2.d/S89cron
mv /etc/rc2.d/s10sysklogd /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd
mv /etc/rc2.d/s23ntp /etc/rc2.d/S23ntp
mv /etc/rc2.d/s20samba /etc/rc2.d/S20samba
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meteohub:~# init 6
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Thats wat I call a work around!! Beuatifull, thanks, I have something to do this evening!
Starting some time earlier but stuck after the first command...
Starting some time earlier but stuck after the first command...
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Looks a typo:
S20loggerd is the file you are going to change drop the '1" in the middle.
Probably best to use cut 'n paste as much as possible to prevent typo's
S20loggerd is the file you are going to change drop the '1" in the middle.
Probably best to use cut 'n paste as much as possible to prevent typo's
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You're right, I see the mistake ...
I can go on with this exercise over 2 weeks because I have to go abroad for 2 weeks for work, hopeful I can find a good internet connection so I can use VNC to do something else I have to wait until I'm back home.
I can go on with this exercise over 2 weeks because I have to go abroad for 2 weeks for work, hopeful I can find a good internet connection so I can use VNC to do something else I have to wait until I'm back home.