LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Thanks BigAIT,
I will receive only next Monday the 16 GB micro SD card that I ordered for the Raspberry Pi. The full size SD card which I have does not fit in the RPi SD slots. I will write on it the necessary mhrpi-v5.0s.img file for the RPi.

In the meantime I am trying to understand the license transfer process.
Where exactly is this System information Page?
On the old Sheeva Plug SD card, I can only see a directory called "sys"
sys>bus>hid>devices>2 files containing numbers
Is this what I should look for?
On the defunct Sheeva Plug itself the label at the back says "Model:003-SP1001" and "SKU#:RD-88F6281-BPLUG-A"
Is that it?

As far as the Activation Code is concerned I have no idea how and where to find it either on the Sheeva or the RPi.

If the worse come to the worse I will contact Meteohub and pay for a new licence, but I shall try first.

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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The System Information Page ( on both the Sheevaplug and the RPi ) is accessed by going to the IP address assigned to either the Sheevaplug Meteohub or the RPi Meteohub by your Router using a browser which brings up the login to the Meteohub Webpage. One of the tabs says System Info. You must know how to do this as it’s the only way to configure the Meteohub which you’ve obviously done to set up it up for your weather station.
The System ID is found on the System Info Tab and the Activation Code is found on the Maintenance Tab. Look in the Meteohub Manual https://www.meteohub.de/files/meteohub-v4.7en.pdf ( there is a German Version as well ) pages 20 and 37 show images of the two pages.

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Unfortunately my Sheeva Plug is not accessible any more. It blinks yellow endlessly (RG45) as mentioned at the beginning.
It lies in a drawer now. Therefore neither he System ID can be found on the System Info Tab nor the Activation Code on the Maintenance Tab. Only this for the RPi when it is up and running.
Therefore, I guess, it will cost me a new licence unless Meteohub makes the effort to look into archives and find my initial payment 9 or 10 years ago. I doubt it...
And even when I am clear with the licence, I am not yet out of troubles. I have to configure again my HTML web page which I want identical. To avoid that I just wanted to copy/paste the necessary files from the old SD to the new one.
Life is hard sometimes! But much better without the covid virus!

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Contact Boris at info(at)meteohub.de. Explain your problem and I’m sure he will find a solution to the activation issue without having to purchase a new license.
Since your SD card is corrupted you may not be able to access the files any longer and even if you could they may not be compatible with the RPi Meteohub Software. I’m sure Boris will be able to provide the necessary information as to this problem as well.

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One question. Does the LED on your Sheevaplug blink at the same rate or is there a pattern. It’s possible that your sheevaplug does not have a valid IP address. See the manual section on originally setting up the Sheevaplug & obtaining an IP address. Start Meteohub

“You can now reach the Meteohub system by your desktop's/laptop's browser at the emergency IP 192.168.1.77 ("http://192.168.1.77") and if you have a DHCP server in your LAN you also can find your Meteohub at the address given by the DHCP server. User name is "meteohub", password is "meteohub". To reach the emergency IP with your browser you probably have to do reconfigure the IP address of your desktop/laptop as described in #Setup of unmodified NSLU2 in your LAN (explains how to bring you desktop into the same subnet as Meteohub). Having reached the Meteohub web interface you can set the IP persistently.
Furthermore, the Windows tool "ipscan" (download here might be helpful to examine the IP that the router has given Meteohub via DHCP, if Meteohub is configured to make use of a dynamic IP via DHCP.
About a minute after reboot Meteohub signals its IP by blinking LEDs.”

Read the Blinks

About one minute after starting reboot Meteohub signals its IP by LED blinking, as it has no buzzer attached. On 1st generation SheevaPlugs the blue LED is used for blinking, newer Sheevas do have a orange LED instead.
Signaling of the IP start sabout one minute after boot. Sequenze begins with LED going off, then each of the four numbers (delimited by a dot) will be signaled one by one. The dot between the numbers will be signaled by a "H" (LED shines bright). Each number is signaled by blinking digit per digit. Each digit is represented by a "M" (LED shines medium dimmed) repeated as often as the digit tells us. The zero digit is signaled by ten blinks. After having done this for all digits of all numbers of the IP, the end is signaled by LED staying off a while like it started with. When Sequenze is done, the LED is constantly turned on again.
Example: IP 192.168.10.77 Legend: M = LED medium dimmed, H = LED shines bright, _ = LED is dark
Signal: Comment
___M___M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M___M_M___H 192
___M___M_M_M_M_M_M___M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M___H 168
___M___M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M___H 10
___M_M_M_M_M_M_M___M_M_M_M_M_M_M___ 77
When Meteohub does not have a valid IP this will be signaled with three blinks shortly following each other.

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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There is no pattern in the Sheeva Plug blinking. I just tried to put it on once more just in case.
The green and yellow leds at the RG45 connection blink at a continuous fast rate of approximately 2 blinks per second.

Emergency IP 192.168.1.77 does not work. The message error is the following:
"La connexion a échoué
Firefox ne peut établir de connexion avec le serveur à l’adresse 192.168.1.77."

My local network modem/router does not "see" the Sheeva Plug, to the contrary of the Raspbian Raspberry which is seen at a fixed local IP 192.168.*.*.

Once I have received the SD card of the right size Monday and written the Meteohub image on it, I will contact Boris and explain the licence problem.

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Boris solved the license problem for me when my SheevaPlug SD Card failed. I believe he just needed the MAC address of my SheevaPlug ( located on the label on the bottom of the SheevaPlug ). I switched to the RPi Meteohub as well but later also had several micro SD card failures so finally switched to the Meteobridge SD Which I’m very happy with.

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Hi BigAit,

I have a hard time to get my RPi up and running.
I carefully followed https://wiki.meteohub.de/Setup_RPI
The first attempt to write the Meteohub .img to a 16 GB micro SD failed. No green led.
I discarded the card and tried with a new one. This time it worked and I have a green and a red led on the RPi.
Everything looks OK..
The problem is that I cannot connect to the RPi.

192.168.1.77 emergency IP won't work.

ssh pi@192.168.0.6
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that a host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the ECDSA key sent by the remote host is
SHA256:*************************************************
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/jp/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending ECDSA key in /home/jp/.ssh/known_hosts:4
remove with:
ssh-keygen -f "/home/jp/.ssh/known_hosts" -R "192.168.0.6"
ECDSA host key for 192.168.0.6 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
Host key verification failed.

I tried to add the missing key to the .ssh file and it did not work or I did it wrong.

What do you think I should try?

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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I finally successfully reached the RPi through my browser at the local IP given by the DHCP.
May be I did not give it enough time before?
But the license problem remains and therefore I am going to contact Boris for it.

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Since you are unable to access your SheevaPlug through the web page any longer you can’t obtain it’s System ID and activation code to perform the online license transfer. Boris is the only one who can help you. He’ll probably require the MAC address of your SheevaPlug located on the label on the bottom. When you finally get your RPi working make sure to copy and paste both it’s System ID and Activation Code to a safe external location so when your Micro SD Card fails ( and in my experience it will ) you can create a new Meteohub installation on a new micro SD card and do the license transfer online as each time you create a meteohub installation on a new micro SD card it generates a new System ID which requires a a new activation code generated by the online license transfer web page.
Also make frequent backups of your data to external storage in case you need to create a new Meteohub micro SD card installation in the future, so you can restore it. Otherwise, like your SheevaPlug, you will loose your historical data.

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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Boris has been kind enough to send me
New SYSTEM ID:
New Activation code:
to be able to transfer my old license.
And I have the RPi MAC address.
Since it does not fit exactly in the form https://wiki.meteohub.de/Transfer or I do not know how to handle it, do you know what goes where?
Once I have a new license key, where do I put it please?

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Did Boris send you a new license key or a new activation key ?. Is the system ID that Boris provided the same one that is currently shown on your Meteohub System Information Page ?.
Since you cannot change the system Id on your Meteohub ( it’s automatically generated when you install the Meteohub image on the new micro SD card ) it doesn’t make sense Boris would send you a new system ID as there is no way to change the current system ID of your Meteohub. Is it possible he actually sent you the original system ID and activation code from your Sheevahub ?. If so, you can use them along with the new System ID from your RPi Meteohub to generate a new activation code using the Transfer webpage.
If Boris sent you a new “ License Key “ then follow this procedure from the Meteohub WiKi :
“During the purchase process a license key will be presented to you. This license key is also part of the confirmation email you get after the transaction has been done. In order to activate your Meteohub you need to enter this license key together with the system ID of your Meteohub at this link: https://wiki.meteohub.de/Activation Please enter the resulting activation code on the corresponding field of your Meteohub on tab "Maintenance", press "save" and you are done..”
Since the activation code you enter on the Maintenance page of your Meteohub that is generated by the either the Activation webpage listed above or the Transfer Webpage is based on the actual System ID that that is currently shown on your System Info Page, make sure you use the actual System ID on your System Info webpage to generate the Activation Code you need and then enter that Activation Code on the Maintenance page of your Meteohub. ( Make sure you save both your System ID and your Activation Code to an external drive in case you ever have to create a new Meteohub installation on a new Micro SD card which will probably be necessary due to micro SD card failures ). If the system ID that Boris provided is different than the one created on your Meteohub when you installed the image and is currently shown on your Meteohub System Info page and you use his provided System ID to generate the activation code, the activation code will not work and you will not be able to generate another Activation Code using the License Key Boris provided as they are a one time use key. You will then have to contact Boris again for a new license key and start all over.

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Here is exactly what i received from Boris:

"I invested my time to research your credentials. What I found is this:
New SYSTEM ID: *********
New Activation code: ***********
You can use this link to migrate license: https://wiki.meteohub.de/Transfer
Please keep track of this, it is your license, not mine."

Please let me know if these elements make sense to you and I will fill the transfer form accordingly.

Where is the system ID shown on my Meteohub System Information Page please?

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On page 20 of the Meteohub Manual https://www.meteohub.de/files/meteohub-v4.7en.pdf
There is a screenshot of the system info page ( the top tab on the left hand side of the webpage that comes up after you login to the Meteohub using a browser to access the IP address assigned to your new Meteohub by your router ).
You can see your System ID in the top box that says Software. It’s the 3rd line down and is comprised of 8 digits ( upper and lower case letters and numbers ). Copy it down manually and also copy and paste it to an external drive or other safe place in case you need to reinstall the meteohub image on a new micro SD card in the future as you’ll need it to perform a license transfer as you are going to do now.
It appears that Boris emailed you the System ID and Activation code from your old Sheeva Plug Meteohub ( not a new system ID and activation code as the new refers to when you originally activated your SheevaPlug/Meteohub ) which you use on the Transfer Web Page ( the link to which I listed in one of my earlier posts and which Boris also has a link to in his email containing your old SheevaPlug/Meteohub system ID and activation code ) to generate a new Activation Code for your new System ID.
On the Transfer webpage using the second tool ( the one at the bottom of the page ) enter the old System ID which you received from Boris in the top box marked “ old system ID “. Then, in the middle box marked “ old activation code “ enter the activation code you received from Boris. Then, in the bottom box marked “ new system-Id “ enter your new System ID you copied from the system info page of your new RPi Meteohub as I’ve described in the first two paragraphs. Then, push The return button on your computer. Your new activation code will appear. Copy it down manually ( it’s very long and comprised of both upper and lower case letters and numbers so make doubly sure you copy them all down correctly and in the correct order. Once, when I tried to copy and paste it, the page closed instead and I had to contact Boris again as once the page closes You can’t bring it back ). After copying it down manually you can try copying and pasting the new activation code into the blank activation code box on the Maintenance Page of your Meteohub/RPi Browser window ( the 10th tab from the top on the left hand side of the first webpage that comes up when you login to your meteohub ). If copying and pasting doesn’t work enter it manually using the manual copy you just made again making sure you copy it exactly.
Then click the Save button next to the activation code box. Your meteohub should now be activated which you can verify by going back to the System Info tab and clicking on it. The System info page will load showing your System ID and next to it the word activated if you were successful.
I hope you now understand the procedure. Make sure you follow it exactly and copy both the System IDs and activation codes to the correct locations on the transfer webpage and from and into the System Info and Maintenance pages of your Meteohub browser window and exactly as they are given and you will be OK.
I repeat again, Please Copy down the System ID of your new RPi Meteohub and the new Activation Code that you generate using the Transfer Webpage and keep them in a safe place. You Will need them later when ( and it’s just a matter of time be it months or years ) when your micro SD card gets corrupted due to the writing of saved weather data and causes your RPi Meteohub to crash. You will need them ( as well as a saved copy of your settings and Weather Data ) to create, initialize, activate and restore your RPi Meteohub.
Good Luck

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Re: LEDs blink in Meteosheeva

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BigAIT, I am really very thankful for your efforts to help me.
Things are tough on me though...
To retrieve the system ID, I tried to reach the RPi through the browser at the address given by DHCP, but I cannot get the "System" tab to open. The page is friezed. In short it says I should buy a 59€ license...

But in this friezed page I fortunately did see a System-ID.
Therefore I could fill the 3 transfer form cells and clicked and obtained an activation code.
I carefully wrote everything down on paper.

And now what?
I cannot reach the RPi through ssh because the "raspberry" password does not work.
The browser only leads to the friezed page.
How to I reach the Meteohub pages? I am lost.

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