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Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:03 pm
by markebailey
Yes, I do. And there is a place to put in the username and password for the ISP. Cool. What next?

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:00 pm
by markebailey
I called the ISP. They (the folks who sold the modem to me) don't have documentation either and so want me to buy a new $99 modem. The tech had me look at the interface, told me that I shouldn't be able to access the modem via the wireless router with a 10.etc address--like I was doing--and that the modem seemed to be already set up to bridge. The tech also claimed my setup wouldn't work without a static IP address -- which he would sell to me for $10 per month.

Time to give up?

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:54 pm
by markebailey
I have an unused Qwest Actiontec DSL modem in SLC. Is it possible/likely that it could be made to work with the ISP - South Central - in Torrey?

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:17 pm
by d_l
The Actiontec will probably work. At least you can get documentation for generic versions of the modem and Quest probably has published documentation for their "version" of the modem if they have customized the GUI.

Before you give up on the current modem, your DSL line is currently connected and active and your router is NOT set to the PPPoE option, right? Just checking. That would certainly mean the modem is NOT bridged.

So you can access the modem's GUI without any problems through the router, right? That tells me the modem is definitely making the PPPoE connection.

Is there any option on the modem that says something like PPP on the computer or PPPoE is not used or Bridged Ethernet.

If you ever get the modem into bridged mode, your DSL user ID and password are then entered into the router. Plus you may have to change some setting son the router to make the PPPoE connection stay up indefinitely.

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:32 pm
by markebailey
your DSL line is currently connected and active and your router is NOT set to the PPPoE option, right? -- right.

So you can access the modem's GUI without any problems through the router, right? Right.

I doubt this helps but here is what is on the PPP configuration page:

Point to Point Protocol (PPP) Configuration
This page is used to Configure and View PPP interfaces.
Inactivity TimeOut(mins) for startondata PPP Interfaces:
Ignore WAN to LAN traffic while monitoring inactivity:
Interface VC Interface Sec Type Protocol WAN IP Gateway IP Default Route Use DHCP Use DNS Oper. Status Action
ppp-0 aal5-0 Public PPPoE 216.etc 216.etc Enable Disable Enable Link Up Edit Delete

Here are the other page options under "Configuration":

ADSL WAN LAN PPP

NAT Virtual Server DMZ

Server Ports

Block Protocols

Advanced Configuration

Save Setting

Here's choices under "Quick Setup":

PPPoA/PPPoE Router

1483 Dynamic IP Router

1483 Static IP Router

Bridge

PPP Half Bridge

I offer these menu items in case they offer any interesting points of pursuit in setting up the bridge. For as long as your patience lasts I would be happy to forward the sub menu option on any of these pages.

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:41 pm
by d_l
The Bridge and Half Bridge submenus would be of interest. I'm thinking Bridge is what you want, but various modems and ISPs use the "same" terminology to mean different things.

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:47 pm
by markebailey
Bridge Quick Configuration
Use this page to quickly configure the system. Please use the parameters provided by your ISP
Operation Mode: Enabled
Encapsulation: 1483 Bridged IP LLC
VPI: 0
VCI: 35

Half Bridge Quick Configuration
Use this page to quickly configure the system. Please use the parameters provided by your ISP
Operation Mode: enabled
Encapsulation: PPPoE LLC
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Username: ***
Password: ***

Note: After pressing "Submit", you must reboot your PC!

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:11 pm
by markebailey
This is a message on the bottom of the "Bridge" sub menu:

Warning: Your communication with the Router will terminate once you save and reboot. In order to configure the Router again, you need to set your PC to a static IP=10.0.0.9, subnet mask=255.0.0.0 and gateway=10.0.0.2.

Note: After pressing "Submit", you must reboot your PC!

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:34 pm
by d_l
OK I don't know what that Half Bridge is used for, but it appears that you want Bridged as you can't seem to get inbound traffic and the public IP passed through to your router any other way.

I'm guessing that the reboot the PC requirement is in order to force it to acquire an IP from another source, e.g. the DHCP server on the router.

On the router you would want to set up a port forwarding to the meteohub. Preferably you would want to use a port translation port forwarding, e.g. something like port 15080 translated/forwarded to port 80 on the meteohub. I don't know if this is possible on your router, but it reduces the chances of hackers attacking your set up. You want to pick an inbound port number that ISN'T used by trojans. Check Shields Up at www.grc.com and look up ports information to find ports not used by trojans.

A static private IP on the meteohub in the same subnet as your router would be best rather than having it acquire an IP from the router.

Some of this may have been covered before but I'm re-hashing it because it was discussed so long. ago.

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:14 pm
by markebailey
DL- It may be working! I haven't taken all the security precautions yet but I am now online with the router doing the PPPoE connection for the first time. I can no longer get the modem GUI via the linksys wirelessly, which I think is a good sign. DDNS in the router now has the public IP. The meteohub is still online. The PC's have internet access. When I browse for the public IP address I now get the meteohub GUI instead of the modem GUI. One of the things I did differently was to reboot everything, including the pc, after I submitted the enable bridge button on the modem. I am waiting for my son to try to access the meteohub via dyndns address from SLC. Down here in Torrey we are heading out to enjoy the solstice for the afternoon but I'll let you know how this router stuff turns out. Thx for the help, you're a good man no matter what your friends say!:cheer: -MEB

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:48 pm
by markebailey
DL- I was premature. My son got a Network Timeout when he tried to access from SLC via dyndns.

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:15 pm
by d_l
A port forwarding problem would be a likely guess at this juncture.

Are you still forwarding port 80 to access the meteohub or has that changed?

If you've switched to another port, you would need to remotely access your meteohub like this, www.mydyndnsname.org:myport#

Re:Network timeout

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:14 pm
by markebailey
B) Adding the port to the browser address did the trick. My router does not have port forwarding translation, but I changed the port number from standard. I haven't been able to change the static ip on the meteohub, but I think for now I will quit while I'm ahead. Thank you!!