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Solar radiation unit: W/m^2 --> Watt for idokep.hu

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:22 pm
by Alacska
Dear Experts & Support Team,

I would like to ask support or app modification in the next update to solve the following problem.
I use meteobridge weather nets many years without any problems. All data appear on
idokep.hu and also on pro.idokep.hu sites except solar radiation. I asked idokep support team what
could be the problem why not appear solar radiation. They told me the problem is the following:
meteobridge is upload the solar data in the following form (example): "150W/m^2" the idokep
server cannot recognise this unit: W/m^2 they can only handling simply watt for example: "150watt"
Don't ask me why however it's not so logical but they ask should contact meteobridge support to ask unit
modification at solarrad for idokep proper upload.
This is my idokep site link where end of the page should be appear solarrad after UV-B chart:
https://www.idokep.hu/automata/folplastkft
and this is an example where appear solarrad without any problem (EasyWeatherPro_V5.1.1):
https://www.idokep.hu/automata/navigator

Thaks your feedback in advance!

Re: Solar radiation unit: W/m^2 --> Watt for idokep.hu

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:31 pm
by Mattk
Did you suggest they change their units in line with the standard measurement of solar radiation? Solar radiance is an instantaneous power density in units of W/m2 or kW/m2.

Re: Solar radiation unit: W/m^2 --> Watt for idokep.hu

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:50 am
by Alacska
Hi

As I check this map https://www.idokep.hu/uv more than >95% of user use:
  • EasyWeatherV1.x.x
  • EasyWeatherProV5.x.x or
  • WH2650A_V1.7.6 or something like this
what is send, upload solrad data without any problem. Obviously idokep team know
-as you mentioned - solrad unit is W/m2, I think the problem is the software/server or program
not handling special character like:/\^ and the other hand at >95% of the (50-100) users working
fine except meteobridge 1-2 user(s),so they don't want to change because this might screw up most
user solrad reports and maybe not anymore appear they solrad values.
I hope a small app modification possible to handling or solve this problem in meteobridge.

Regards: -A-

Re: Solar radiation unit: W/m^2 --> Watt for idokep.hu

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:46 pm
by Gyvate
I think you are making wrong assumptions - what Ecowitt consoles post for solar radiation is just the sensor identifier and the corresponding value, no unit - for solar radiation they do not post any unit as this is an obvious, unequivocal unit - whereas temperature or pressure, rain and wind speed can be measured in different units and there an identifier goes with it.

I agree with @MattK and I'd say the weather service should adjust their software just ignoring units coming with solar radiation as W/m2 is the SI unit used by everybody. But if they move for a few MB users is the question.

Of course the posting string of MB could also be changed for this provider as it's provider specific and won't affect anyone else.
@admin will have received the string definition from from idokep.hu before implementing it. Maybe really a mistake was made - or idokep.hu changed their definition without information the MB development ...

To work around this until either (or none) implements respective changes their end, you would have to create your own http request in the MB Service/Events area where you don't send the units along with the solar radiation.
I'm sure idokep.hu will provide you with the string they expect along with the http request (meaning a complete sample http request).
Then you have to apply the MB template language to produce your own string and switch of the posting in the Networks tab until the issue gets solved.

Re: Solar radiation unit: W/m^2 --> Watt for idokep.hu

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:32 pm
by admin
Alacska wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:22 pm I use meteobridge weather nets many years without any problems. All data appear on
idokep.hu and also on pro.idokep.hu sites except solar radiation. I asked idokep support team what
could be the problem why not appear solar radiation. They told me the problem is the following:
meteobridge is upload the solar data in the following form (example): "150W/m^2" the idokep
server cannot recognise this unit: W/m^2 they can only handling simply watt for example: "150watt"
Don't ask me why however it's not so logical but they ask should contact meteobridge support to ask unit
modification at solarrad for idokep proper upload.
I checked the code and result is that Meteobridge is not uploading any solar radiation information to idokep at all.
I can easily add this, when someone tells me the URL parameter to use.