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Hej,

I have this roblem. I am installing a NSLU2 with meteohub software on it on somebody elses router. It is a DSL router. Now the problem is like this:
- When I install it with my USRobotics ADSL router, everything was fine. It was found without any hassle. Afterwards I changed the setting in ther meteohub, so I could reach meteohub+ internet from every computer that was connected to the net (for instance: at work).

So after testing was done, I went to the farmer where I saw a speedcom router. DSL. This has an other cable. SO I brought my USR router with me, but can't connect it. The line is fixed, so I can't use any other cable. The router just does not let me reach the meteohub.

I have used two internet over powerline onnectors. They both indicate that eternet is available, so there is a connection but there it stops. I am not sure if there is a password, but I do not think so. Can anybody help, for instance with settings??? I do not know how to solve it.

IPSCAN does not find the meteohub, it does find the PC and the router.

Thanks in advance!!

I'm not a geek on this subject, but I suffered a similar trouble last week.

I bought a couple PLC since everywhere it's said that it can reach up to 200 meters, at a similar speed as if it was a wired connection.

The true is even when they both met it was impossible to get them connected when in different rooms. When testing in same room it was possible to get connection, but some packets where lost, quite often.

So, I returned PLC and I'm thing again with cable linking, which is more reliable.

Depending on electrical installation you may have troubles to have a neat conection... even when both PLC see each other.


HTH,
Chill,

Check that your router uses the same IP range as the NSLU2, which defaults to 192.168.1.77 (or the "192.168.1.*" subnet.)

Many routers use 192.168.0.* subnet as a default for DHCP assignments, and thus a device with a static IP on the 192.168.1.* subnet will not be reachable.

You can verify and/or fix this in one of two ways:

1. Within the settings of new router (where you can't find the Meteohub), verify that the Gateway and DHCP allocation range is within 192.168.1.* (and make sure it is actually set up to be a DHCP server.)

2. Plug the Meteohub back into the old router and verify that it is set to obtain an IP address via DHCP instead of having one set static on the Settings page. If it is set DHCP then it should work on any subnet.

Hej,

First of all: thanks very much!!

Second: it is very unlikely the PLC. Because they worked brilliant in my house, they did not work there and they did not work even when on the same powerbox. Moreover: the NSLU2 was not found, even when it was connected directly tot the router....

So that is not it. Anyway: the PLC's indicated in al situation that ethernet was fund, so in all likelyhood that is not it.

I have set the DHCP server one address, but could reach the NSLU2 in two ways. On the address on the net and directly via the router, using the old settings. So I guess it is porbably that I have to make it available in as sevenless said I should.

If you have anymore info, thanks. Because I will go back there tomorrow and do notwant to bother the people over there all the time.

Thanks again,

Jorge

I found the router on the net.The routers standard IP address is 192.168.1.254, according to the documentation I have over here. Is it of any use to set the Gateway and the DNS in "settings" of the Meteohub to this address?

The router over there works from 192.168.x to 192.168.1.255. My router works from 192.168.2.xxx and this address was found without a problem.

I have heard of more problems with speedtouch routers, btw.

COuld I buy a dslrouter and link the old one with a cable to the new one??? Would that work?

BTW: I cannot access my meteohub anymore from 192.168.1.77.

BTW: I have been reading for 8 hours now. All about the router over there, all about setting and it was actually difficult to access the meteohub when back at home. This is the trouble with computers/IT in general: lack of standards. Every router has its own peculiar settings etcetc. Costst me loads of time. I am not saying that things should be easy because I think so, I just can imagine from an enduser point vieuw that things could have been a hell of lot simpler if only standards were available (more) and things were much better documented. It can be done, just look at the maunuals on this site,

J.S. wrote:
I have heard of more problems with speedtouch routers, btw.

sorry but Thomson Speedtouch routers are great devices. I have one, and I´m 100% satisfied!

The reason why I was sacking my old AVM Fritzbox 7170 was, because I had like 200 losses of signal a day.
Their support team was anything but helpful and coming up with help that can only be described as useless!

My line is at the very end of the technical specification for ADSL.
length: 6km
attenuation: >60dB
SNR (signal noise ratio): very low from 3-7dB

Nevertheless, since using a THOMSON ST716v5 all my problems went away and my ADSL is running absolutely flawless.

I do not need to mention that meteohub and ST do work together without any, yes any problems!

J.S. wrote:
BTW: I cannot access my meteohub anymore from 192.168.1.77

you can not access it, because your network card does not have added an IP-address with that subnet.
In order to get access via the default 192.168.1.77 address you need to alter your IPsettings that your card has one than more IP.
With WIN XP you can assign more than one IP to one LAN card, but DHCP switched off then!

BTW: I have been reading for 8 hours now. All about the router over there, all about setting and it was actually difficult to access the meteohub when back at home. This is the trouble with computers/IT in general: lack of standards. Every router has its own peculiar settings etcetc. Costst me loads of time.

Okay maybe because I´m dealing with the LAN stuff on a daily basis with my job, but standards are there and they´re pretty much very good!
And the different router GUI´s can´t really be the problem.
Wait until IPv6 will be the default IPversion.
Then things will be great as long as automatic (DHCP) routines work, but if not a completely new number scheme will confuse the user.

"Are great devices". Because you think so it is so. That is peculiar: because I do not think so, it isn't so? In short: it is a matter of taste. I compare with USR and the difference is huge. The USR is very comprehensive, the Speedcom is not (in my opinion).

I have been reading threw the Speedcom manual for 6 hours. I am sitting here again for hours on end to get it fixed and indeed there are more people having problems with this modem and an NSLU2, I have looked on it on the internet. But that is besides the point. I want a solution if possible.

May be you can tell me what I am doing wrong. The DHCP server on the modem is now turned on, there is no firewall. I cannot reach the NSLU2 at all. IPscan scans nothing, even when I stretch the search. It does not matter.

I already bought another ADSL2+ router, but first I want to try this one. I know I will learn from it, so until I have no options left I will try this one.

Thaks in advance.

Well, I have owned a computercompany for 13 years (till 2005), it had 5-10 employees so nothing big. Building clone computers and have have very different experiences with "standards", related things and none compliance. Like Serial ATA harddisk which made it impossible to install Windows on at first, unless you put the right driver in a FDD. Like RAW formats that are certainly not standardized, so you have to be luccky to find a driver for certain cams that can make those pictures, but whose RAW format is not supported by some photo editting programms.Like my new Asus mainboard now (very low power, with low Power AMD 4400+ CPU) and an unrecognisable soundcard on board. Which is another known problem. I have tried to fix it, read many mails but I gave up. I will buy another soundcard...Etc.

But you have different experiences, I understand that. And you probably know mych more than me about this.

Anyway: thanks for the answer. Despite the above, I am not an expert and therefor ask for help. Most of the time I try to fix things myself and it usually works (I read manuals). But this time tough luck...

The problem is that I cannot access the internet via the wireless router of this person and I have to use her computer to access the router. So I do not want ot mess up things, I am only so lucky to be allowed to have a station in the country. It is the third day in a row that I am there, which I also do not like. I do not want to be in the way.

A third point: the provider has changed. Just when I left the woman told me that there was an email from the new provider who stated that the speedtouch needed a formware update in order to function properly..She said that eveyr once in a while, connection is lost since they had the new provider.

I cannot take the router to my home, as it is Annex A and I have Annex B. Do you know if there are adapter so you can still use it? Guess not, because they have an ISDN line. Or can I patch such routers, so I can still can change settings?


So what do I have to do now? I cannot access the 192.168.1.77 with my USR anymore. But I can access it threw the DNS and also via my local network. Should I change something in the Meteohub software?

You wrote: "In order to get access via the default 192.168.1.77 address you need to alter your IPsettings that your card has one than more IP."

BTW: it does find the IP address from the computer I am working on over there, which seems no more than logical....

Which card do you mean.? I have no card. Should I reset the NSLU2. What happens if I do so ( I thought that meant a full installation again..)?

Does it help if I post some printscreens or send them (if you want to of course) to you, so you can see what is wrong.

I have changed many settings: disabled the firewall, letting uPnP on. Added IP adresses to the router, enabled DHCP server and so on. So I am in the dark here..

What settings do you use on your Speedtouch router, so that it works?? Because I do no understand what you have written about adding

Could ask a zillion more questions, may (some of) you cannot answer them but put me in the right direction. Meanwhile I will reread the Meteohubs manual again.

Thanks in advance

Screenshots from my settings
ST and meteohub - DHCP disabled for meteohub


Connection Sharing for port:80 Webserver only needs to be enabled if you want to access meteohub externally.



What IP-address have you setup for meteohub?
What IP-address and gateway is assigned on your local PC LAN card?
If you ping meteohub locally, do you get a response on the assigned IP for meteohub?

Super!! Thanks.

External access via internet is VITAL. This situation is out in the country. Connected to the Speedtouch and I want to access the Meteohub via the Speedtouch from my house, 3 km away.


These settings work at home. Same color= same adress.

I actually do not know how I got the 62.238.xx.xxx adress, forgot about it. I do not think it came from a DynDNS service (it is disabled), but I think it is from the router self? Do you know???
The settings on the router says:
"WAN= Static IP adress"
"DHCP is enabled"
"DDNS= Disabled"
"UpnP= Off"
IP adress pool: start192.168.2.xxx end 192.168.2.199
domain: none


1) Settings on my Meteohub when I enter it at home from my router (not via internet):
IP=192.168.z.zzz
NetMask=255.255.255.0
Gateway=192.168.v.v
DNS=192.168.v.v
Workgroup=Home
Hostname=Meteohub
Port=80

2) Settings on my MeteoHub when accessed via Internet (so on another location), setting Meteohub:

Hostname: meteohub
Workgroup: Home
Mac: Here follows the macaddress
IP: 192.168.z.zzz
Gateway: 192.168.v.v
DNS 192.168.v.v
WAN IP: 62.23k.kk.kk

3) Settings of USR router:

INTERNET
Cable/DSL: CONNECTED
WAN IP: 62.23k.kk.kk
Subnet Mask: 255.255.248.0
Gateway: 62.238.xx.xxx
Primary DNS: 212.115.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS: 62.238.xxx.xxx
Firewall: enable

GATEWAY
IP Address=192.168.v.v
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP Server: Enabled
Firewall: Enabled
UPnP: Disabled
Wireless: Enabled


Oke:a lot of info an hope you understand it.

1) if I do not change anything in meohub, is there a possibility to access it via speedtouch?

Or

Do have to get the speedtouch setting and put them into the meteohub and then check it.

ANy other tips.

Your screenshots are very comprehensive, thank you! They look familiar, adresses are typical speedtouch adresses I see.

I still do not get the remark about a pc card. Do yu mean the PC card that is in the computer? Do I have to disable internet??

Your questions:
What IP-address and gateway is assigned on your local PC LAN card?
- Dunno.

What IP-address and gateway is assigned on your local PC LAN card?

?

If you ping meteohub locally, do you get a response on the assigned IP for meteohub?

Pinging at home with USR worked fine on IP IP=192.168.z.zzz and on WAN
WAN IP: 62.23k.kk.kk.

Hej wfpost,

Hier hast du geschrieben:

"3. Portweiterleitung
der meteohub kann ohne weitere Änderung Daten ins Internet senden.
damit du den internen webserver des meteohub vom Internet aus erreichen kannst, mußt du am Router Port 80 auf die interne IP-Adresse des meteohub "mappen".
Das geht auch bei deinem Telekom-Router.

Dein PC bleibt weiterhin sicher, keiner kann vom Internet über den Router irgendwelche Serverdienste (sofern sie überhaupt installiert sind) nutzen. Vom meteohub webserver führt über port 80 kein Weg auf deinen PC.
In dem Auszug meines Thomson Routers sieht du die Adressweiterleitung des Dienstes Webserver (Port 80) von der externen WAN (Internetadresse) auf die interne Adresse des NSLU2.
(Bei mir der Name des meteohub-Gerätes: bei meinem Router kann man interne Netbiosnamen oder IP-Adressen verwenden, 192.168.1.112 = LKG288307)"


Was ich wahrscheinlich nicht verstehe:

1) woher kommen die IP Adressen? Muss ich ein freies Adresse angeben die der router unterstutz (mit IPSCAN gefunden). Oder ist es vice versa.
LKG288397 ist das mac adress der NSLU2. Bei mir is dass etwas anderes. Also muss ich die gebrauchen?

Und woher kommt dan die adresse 62.238.x.xxx von mir. Ich weisse nicht mehr wie ich die bekommen habe...generiert die Router diese, hab ich die via DynDNS bekommen oder????

Entschuldigung das ich soviel frage, aber ich habe nur bis Sonntag ferien, danach ist schluss (naja..weniger Zeit).

Mfg und danke,

JS

Hi Jorge,

also die WAN IP, oder 62.xxx ist die IP-Adresse, die du vom IP-Provider bei jeder neuen DSL-Einwahl des Routers bekommst.
In der Regel wird alle 24 Stunden eine Zwangstrennung vom ISP vorgenommen, deswegen ändert sich die externe Adresse min. alle 24 Std.

Wichtig ist, daß du die interne IP-Adresse des meteohub im Speedtouch Router auf den Port 80 einstellst. Wie in meinen Screenshot im anderen Thread zu sehen.

Also, Connection Sharing - dort den Meteohub auswählen, oder die IP des meteohub von Hand eingeben.
LKG288397 ist der interne NETBIOS Name des meteohub oder genauer des LINKSYS NSLU2, weil den NETBIOS Namen des meteohub kannst du im GUI verändern. Standardname --> meteohub

Frage:
Lokal kannst auf das WEBINTERFACE des meteohub auch beim Speedtouch zugreifen?

Gruß,
Wolfgang

Deine letzte Frage...ich kann auf keine weise zugreifen. Also auch nicht wenn ich der Meteohub an Speedtouch geschaltet ist...Aber hier ist Port 80 denke ich dass Problem. Habe ich nicht eingestellt.....

Die Speedtouch hat Wireless LAN. Alle Leute da konnen, ohne etwas zu andern mit ausname von Password via Speedtouch wireless auf Internet (die haben da Gaste aus verschiedene Lander)...Mit mein laptop ist dass auch nicht moglich.

Vielleicht nicht Interessant, aber ich glaube dass es hier um dasselbe Problem handelt. Auch hier ist auf meine Laptop bei meine netwerkkarte addresse 192.168.2.1 (networkcard DNS Server und Default Gateway)...genau so wie bei meine Meteohub (selbe addresse).

Ist es so dass es bei mir fix eingestellt ist, muss ich dass vielleicht (auch) andern?

Kann ich hier vielleicht printscreen sehen lassen von einstellungen der Speedtouch?? Kannst du vielleicht sehen was dass Problem is. Bin ganz sicher dass es die Einstelliungen liegt, da alles dort ohne Problemen funzt.

Muss ich nichts andern an meine Meteohub Einstellungen? Ist alles gut oder nicht??

Danke sehr und mfg,

Jorge

J.S. wrote:Deine letzte Frage...ich kann auf keine weise zugreifen. Also auch nicht wenn ich der Meteohub an Speedtouch geschaltet ist...Aber hier ist Port 80 denke ich dass Problem. Habe ich nicht eingestellt.....

Also wenn du mit dem Speedtouch verbunden bist (egal ob über WLAN oder Ethernet-Kabel) ist das Port80 Setting am Speedtouch nicht notwendig.
Dann kannst du dich über
http://<ip-meteohub> das meteohub webinterface aufrufen.
Kannst du denn den Speedtouch pingen?
Also im DOS-Fenster
ping 192.168.1.254

Nur wenn du von extern (also übers Internet auf den meteohub zugreifen willst, mußt du den Port80 auf die WAN IP aufschalten(Port-Sharing)

Die Speedtouch hat Wireless LAN. Alle Leute da konnen, ohne etwas zu andern mit ausname von Password via Speedtouch wireless auf Internet (die haben da Gaste aus verschiedene Lander)...Mit mein laptop ist dass auch nicht moglich.

Hört sich nach ganz normaler WLAN Security an.

Vielleicht nicht Interessant, aber ich glaube dass es hier um dasselbe Problem handelt. Auch hier ist auf meine Laptop bei meine netwerkkarte addresse 192.168.2.1 (networkcard DNS Server und Default Gateway)...genau so wie bei meine Meteohub (selbe addresse).

Ist es so dass es bei mir fix eingestellt ist, muss ich dass vielleicht (auch) andern?

Kann ich hier vielleicht printscreen sehen lassen von einstellungen der Speedtouch?? Kannst du vielleicht sehen was dass Problem is. Bin ganz sicher dass es die Einstelliungen liegt, da alles dort ohne Problemen funzt.

Muss ich nichts andern an meine Meteohub Einstellungen? Ist alles gut oder nicht??

Ja, printscreens des Speedtouch wären sehr gut.
ich denke auch, daß es nur die fehlende Einstellung des PortConnectionSharing für Port80 ist.

Gruß,
Wolfgang