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degree days calculator
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:49 pm
by kiofen
heating degree days (or cooling) are very important to engineering and agriculture . for the seconds are basic tool . weather details are very important in agriculture and degree days is one of most used tools. i use the
http://www.degreedays.net/ to take the degree days from my weather station ( need to upload them in weatherundergound first . but i think its very easy to have in from my meteohub direct. so please think about this ability in the future . thank you
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:21 pm
by skyewright
kiofen wrote:heating degree days (or cooling) are very important to engineering and agriculture . for the seconds are basic tool . weather details are very important in agriculture and degree days is one of most used tools. i use the
http://www.degreedays.net/ to take the degree days from my weather station ( need to upload them in weatherundergound first . but i think its very easy to have in from my meteohub direct. so please think about this ability in the future . thank you
If you use Meteoplug with your Meteohub data, you might be interested in a chart I devised for degree days. I don't claim it to be perfect, but I found it useful for my own purposes. The chart definition is provided at the link shown below:
http://forum.meteoplug.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=57
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:41 pm
by kiofen
i use the linksys hardware .dont know if that counts . but i dont know nothing about code and thats the prob. the most easy that i can do is to add some code in a html page to retive the data from my plug
and to post it in my webpage but in any case i thing its easy from the developer if the code is ready to add it. and i think there is interesting about and also opens new fields to use the meteohub
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:22 am
by skyewright
kiofen wrote:i use the linksys hardware .dont know if that counts .
So far as I'm aware all Meteohubs can optionally upload data to the Meteoplug server.
See the "Meteoplug Server" section on the "Settings" page of your Meteohub web interface.
To use Meteoplug reporting and charting you need to subscribe (there is a free evaluation period in which you can assess the usefulness of the system to you). Nowadays I use Meteoplug charts and reports more often than I use 'native' Meteohub ones, even though the data is actually collected by a Meteohub!
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:58 pm
by Hathor27
Hi there,
great thing with your
degree days calculator 
But: Is there no easy way to build up someting like that as
virtual sensor or
weatherstation-plugin?
Could anybody of the experienced users give a newcomer a lift?
Thanks in advance
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:29 pm
by skyewright
Hathor27 wrote:Hi there,
But: Is there no easy way to build up someting like that as virtual sensor or weatherstation-plugin?
It would be possible to have something that looked at the day's average temp just before midnight, calculated a degree day figure for the day, then wrote the value to a degree day "sensor". However:
a) The plug-in would need a very long
Hold time for live data as it would only report once a day.
b) It would be relying on incomplete data (i.e. it runs before the end of the day & the daily average figure isn't always spot up to date anyway).
Alternatively would it be a valid & useful calculation if it ran more often and calculated, say, hourly degree day values? e.g. run once an hour and look at the
last60m or
hour1 data, so, say, an average temp of 14C in the last hour would contribute 0.0417 HDD15 (i.e. 1/24th of a HDD15). To report on degree days you'd use the sum of the hourly values. Would such a value make any sense? Maybe it would be more accurate than a daily version!
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:06 am
by Hathor27
skyewright wrote:To report on degree days you'd use the sum of the hourly values. Would such a value make any sense? Maybe it would be more accurate than a daily version!
It's winter time - so I'm back to this topic
I can build a
degree number as a virtual sensor, such as a difference between the
wanted indoor temperature and the
actual outdoor temperature, if outdoor temperature is below 15°C. I used
th0 and set
t1 as
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awk '{if ($3<150) {printf "%d", 200-$3} else print "0"}'
That works brilliant - but how would I sum this value each hour (or each day) and log it in Meteohub? How can I build an integral of a logged value, like they can do with rain or evapotranspiration values?
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:16 pm
by skyewright
Hathor27 wrote:That works brilliant - but how would I sum this value each hour (or each day) and log it in Meteohub?
I think you'll find that "deltasum" is the graphing feature that you are looking for?
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:14 pm
by Hathor27
skyewright wrote:I think you'll find that "deltasum" is the graphing feature that you are looking for?
Thank you skyewright. That's a good idea, but as I think it's the other way 'round.
I do not have a sum already - I only have actual values. I need somehow to build the integral (the sum) of
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[ mean(temperature over a certain timeslice) x timeslice ] + sum(before)
Any idea how I could build that? As virtual sensor?
How can I fetch historical data, such as mean(last hour) or mean(last day)?
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:43 pm
by skyewright
Hathor27 wrote:How can I fetch historical data, such as mean(last hour) or mean(last day)?
If you use "1 Hour" or "1 Day" buckets then the value for each bucket point will be the mean for that hour (or day).
Hathor27 wrote:How can I fetch historical data, such as mean(last hour) or mean(last day)?
For that sort of thing I use the html template system.
A plug-in can then call the template to get whatever values you have specified. In perl I use use LWP::UserAgent (I think I had to install that from CPAN myself), but I think wget could probably be used in a similar way?
Re: degree days calculator
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:52 pm
by Hathor27
skyewright wrote:A plug-in can then call the template to get whatever values you have specified. In perl I use use LWP::UserAgent (I think I had to install that from CPAN myself), but I think wget could probably be used in a similar way?
Thx for your patience, skyewright - by now I got a clue:
- I read the actual data on port 5558 (that's pretty fast),
- add the new amount to the actual data
- and write the sum as raw data to stdout (plug-in)
In case of performance
levelling I use a php-script on an other machine doing string and data extracting and calculation. The plug-in just calls this script