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Meteohub goes VMware...

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Meteohub is now available as demo version for VMware Player 2.5 and VMware Server 2.0.

Meteohub is just available in demo mode on VMware, at the moment.

See details here:
http://www.meteohub.de/joomla/index.php ... &Itemid=73
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admin wrote:Meteohub is now available as demo version for VMware Player 2.5 and VMware Server 2.0.
Great idea Boris!
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Great step, I was thinking about that in the past, but didn´t dare to ask.

I was thinking about running wswin und meteohub in VM simultaneously on one of the new x86 platforms using Windows XP and a 8BG SSD.

What I do not know though is, whether the USB signal from the VP2 will get through to both instances:
Windows XP and wswin
and meteohub running as VM?

Or is USB locked exclusive to either the host or the virtual machine?

Anyone with a guess?

Thanks,
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wfpost wrote:Anyone with a guess?
I don't know the answer to your specific question and I'm not even a VP owner, but I have come across this that might be relevant:
http://www.softwx.com/weather/virtualvp.html
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I tried Vmware Player 2.5 and VMware 2.0 (both are avail for free) and both allow to decide on certain USB devices if they are available to the host or if they are connetced to the virtual machine. This works very well with USB weather stations, but you have to decide for each USB devicde what it should exclusively be connected to.

I does also work with USB webcams. On my core2duo file server that works fine, but might not do on smaller systems.
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Moin,

ist es möglich bzw. wird es in absehbarer Zeit möglich sein, meine License unter VM-Ware zu nutzen.
Bei mir steht direkt neben dem NSLU ein Eee-PC 901 der 24/7/365 als Zentralintelligenz die Haussteuerung übernimmt (Heizungssteuerung, EIB und einige andere Kleinigkeiten) und auf dem nebenbei auch mein WS-Win läuft.
Von daher wäre es schön, wenn ich das NSLU wegrationalisieren könnte. Genug Leistungsreserven hat der 901er, die Demo läuft super.

Grüße aus Rostock
Jörg.

P.S.
Den Beitrag gibts auf deutsch weil die engl. Variante mal wieder dem Inaktivitäts timeout der Seite zum Opfer gefallen ist :angry: und ich schlich zu faul bin das Ganze noch mal ins englische zu bringen.
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Fenner wrote:timeout
For any but the shortest messages I try to remember to
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i.e. select and copy the message text, before I hit Sumbit!
That way if the Forum has timed out it's easy to recreate the message.

PS. I don't claim to be able to read German - but I do know where to find Bable Fish and so was able to get a rough idea of what you had written... :)
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Hi,
yes I am working on a VMware Meteohub Image that can be licensed. It is not that easy to get unique information about the hosting system that could be used to bind a license with.

Getting rid of additional hardware is a fine thing, if you have a capable server 24/7 running.
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admin wrote: ... It is not that easy to get unique information about the hosting system that could be used to bind a license with. ...
I'm afraid, in that case we will never see a licensable VM version.:(
I'm relatively familar with VM machines - you may get some information about the hardware of the host. But how about the host of the host of the ....?:huh:
It's just a little trick to get a VM running in a VM in a .... (you may substitute VM with Virtual PC ...). And for instance with the 901 Eee-PC (upgraded to 2Gb RAM) it's even not a question of performance or lack memory.
The allmost only real piece of hardware you will see in all instances is the CPU. And on almost all PC you will find the unique serial number of the CPU disabled.

Greetings
Jörg.

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As long as you have a generic x86 version, there will be possibilities to get them running on a VM or an 2nd machine.
Also on the NSLU you could fake the MAC and use your license twice. But for what benefit? Who needs more than one weather server by his own?

P.P.S.
If you serious afraid illegal copies, then you should disable the license transfer on your website too, 'cause you'll not be able to blacklist or revoke the license of an for instance firewalled NSLU used with a backup of the transferred meteohub installation.

P.P.P.S.
Please don't misunderstand me, I'ts not my intention to abuse your great peace of software but to mention that in view of copy protection the step to x86 hardware was comparable to be a sheep under wolves. It's beyond all question whether it will be copied, it's only the question when.

Last but not least: sorry for that realy long article.
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Thank you for providing good reasons not to make a full version for VMware... :P

But seriously, I am not looking for unbreakable copy protection. The level I have seems reasonable to me, and yes touching x86 land gives much more challenges. However, I still feel comfortable.

My plan is, to provide a VMware version that can be licensed. It will just need some more weeks.

However, great to see that it is working fine on your rig.
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