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Metrobridge Nano SD Frustrations Weather34 template

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This is a subjective request for help since I have really no where else to turn to. I purchased this Nano SD to replace my aging ambient weather IIS website just internally hosted on a small home PC. I bought this assuming it would not be so challenging to get this working. First off, the documentation is terrible of how to even install this device. The instructions that were sent were in another language. When I asked where to find them, I was told literally the Wiki which I could not find them. The setup video was very unclear in the fact that you need a username and password to login to get to the configuration page so that was no help. 14 hours later, I thought I had everything working. I had to ask how to "locally" setup the weather34.com template to the manufacturer since there is no indication anywhere how to enable this. I then setup my IIS with PHP and installed the 1.07 GitHub template. It was all working awesome and then for some reason, the nano stopped sending data to the machine after about an hr. I rebooted everything and re-build the IIS server on 2 separate machines and the error that its producing is the same - according to the Live view data tab - there is an error when sending but its meaningless to me what it could mean:

Service has a big red X and then this next to it:

2019-12-23 15:00:41 Error: 2019-12-23 15:00:39 http://192.168.110.123/MBSMART/mbridge/ ... 205.8%2020

I am not sure where to go from here - the only thing I can say that's not a match is that this is running on the original Davis Vantage Pro vs a Pro2 but the localhost template on the nano is working just fine. I want to use the external machine however because it's more flexible and a great way to learn some new software.
Can anyone help?
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Hi rhombixt,

Having just set this up recently, it sounds like you have two issues, local access to the weather34 template hosted on the nano and an externally hosted 1.07A version. At this juncture, you have do you have the local home weather34 on the nano SD working?
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Correct. I have managed to get the external one working using XAMPP which is a test apache web server and php built in. So I have that running, whats not working now are the WX and WUnderground API's for getting the forecast etc.

I have tried everything to get them working yet they run fine on the built in dashboard.
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OK. So just some basics here, have you registered/requested an API Key from Wunderground and CheckWX so they can be entered into your external server settings page? If so, did you follow Weather34's instructions on how to setup the HTTP exports in the services tab, and Home Weather Station in the Weather Nets tab in meteobridge? Sorry for the questions, just getting a baseline of where you are in the config.

Don't know if you have these, but here are some helpful links if you have not reviewed them. I initially set them up incorrectly and had the same issues you were experiencing where my local METAR settings were not updating with the proper forecasts.

Start with setup guide on Brian's site.

https://weather34.com/homeweatherstatio ... idemb.html

Guide to upload data to your new server

https://weather34.com/homeweatherstatio ... anosd.html

Upload chart data to new server. Follow these explicitly for timing on uploads. I initially got this wrong.

https://weather34.com/homeweatherstatio ... setup.html

Also, you have entered all of the pertinent data in your external settings page, just like your local home weather station settings? Sorry to be rudimentary here, just sorting out how far you have this setup.
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One more thing that helped me along was a setup guide from Ambient Weather, the US based reseller for the Nano SD. Some of it may not apply such as the Ambient Weather features. The rest is well documented on the Meteobridge Wiki.

https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@sit ... s/NANO.pdf
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I got everything working just before midnight. The API keys were fine , the issue was the historical chart upload was not working so the forecasts were not working. It only took 18 hrs of guessing and trial and error.

I’m not going to recommend this product to anyone based on comments from Boris and how rude he was to me along with the terrible documentation explaining how to set the the sd nano. Clearly you’re expected to be some sort of genius computer programmer or else don’t ask belittling questions of how to set it up.
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Can't say I see a lot of people having problems, why do you think you had problems?
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Huh?
You were directed to the wiki and could not find the login credentials? Maybe you did not read the wiki under the headline "first login"??
Pretty much everything you will need to know is in this wiki.
https://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index. ... ng_Started

Well well. Hope you will become a better friend with your nano. It is a really neat device...
PWS Villshärad/Halmstad, Sweden: vader.fishmoose.se DavisVPro + MB NanoSD.
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rhombixt wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:14 am I got everything working just before midnight. The API keys were fine , the issue was the historical chart upload was not working so the forecasts were not working. It only took 18 hrs of guessing and trial and error.

I’m not going to recommend this product to anyone based on comments from Boris and how rude he was to me along with the terrible documentation explaining how to set the the sd nano. Clearly you’re expected to be some sort of genius computer programmer or else don’t ask belittling questions of how to set it up.
hmmm but its ok for you too be rude works both ways perhaps tone your socially inept method this is not a social media environment we can all help,each other just sometimes timezone differences,seasonal festive holiday periods can delay an outcome . i think your the guy that sent me a message on wxforum due to i was commuting so i thought id suggest you sign up,here but if i had known you were going to fire on all cylinders in such a way i wouldnt have recommended that idea. reading your above post if i had been available with some time to hand i could have arranged a skype and would have had you up and running in minutes as I develop the whole template locally on xampp have for done for years on an old 2010 mac mini acting as a local hosted server.

i would suggest take a step back if it was a bad product as you mention i wouldn't have certainly spent last few years specifically developing for it , i get it documentation could be better but that takes time to perfect and like boris i dont have a multiple of employee’s to do the tedious stuff like documentation i just do it has a hobby and enjoy collaborating, resolving issue in an amicable environment. so take a deep breath things can get resolved if your prepared to learn and have a bit of patience and im sure everyone would gladly help and perhaps you can pass that knowledge on to someone who may be having difficulties in the future.

take care brian
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rhombixt wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:14 am I’m not going to recommend this product to anyone based on comments from Boris and how rude he was to me along with the terrible documentation explaining how to set the the sd nano. Clearly you’re expected to be some sort of genius computer programmer or else don’t ask belittling questions of how to set it up.
"Rudeness": Sorry, if I came along rude. But I think your expectation that I help you through setting up/debugging your server to have the weather34 template working there fine is a bit too much. This is not something where it needs the Meteobridge developer, the forum is the much better place to get help from users being through this integration already.

"Genius Computer Programmer": Meteobridge tries to make a ton of functions available on a tiny embedded device but it cannot hide all complexity underneath from the user - or at least I was not able to master such a complete hiding. If you find something similar powerful but much easier to use, please let me know. I am keen to learn.

"Terrible Documentation": The wiki is best I can do as a non-native English speaking person and I think it really covers a lot. I have to balance my time on the Meteobridge project between developing new stuff, adapting code to necessary changes, solving Meteobridge bugs (real ones not user-specific issues with surrounding infrastructure), and documentation.

If you are still totally unhappy I would recommend to get in contact with the one you purchased the NANO SD from to ask for a return.
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Sorry if anyone thought I was rude but all I asked for I am email was some help. Instead of some pointers, I was told to go here and find a solution but nothing that was posted here matched my problem.

Windows iis was the problem for the most part - this xampp software is what made things run smoother but that’s after I figured it out randomly.

Boris - I bought your product and paid close to $500 for it so I think as a customer, I should be entitled to a bit of guidance. I’m not a smart guy , but the instructions were sent in German , the wiki talks about using the weather34 template but not that it’s under something called “local dashboard”. Saying to someone if they can’t “master it”, (which is in fact selecting something from a drop down menu ) , to go elsewhere for help isn’t necessary . I think I can operate a pull down menu. All you needed to say is just choose this option. When I asked about my error - you could have said just try a different iis server application or anything other then you won’t help me and go somewhere else for help. If I can’t reach out to the company that made the product for help, then why should I recommend it ? I don’t know how big or small a company is, I’m just a farmer that asked for help.

Brian - I don’t know why you are calling me rude and why you are attacking me for having an opinion . I think the template is brilliant and wonderfully done and I have no idea that You are not part of a bigger company and this is a hobby for you. Nothing is clear anywhere of what the requirements are for setup and use and that the nano is one product, the template is another. I also really and I had no idea this forum even existed. I used an ambient weather station package since 2003 on the farm but a lot of it stopped working well on browsers. I was just a consumer that bought a product and I’m not a programmer, Coder, xml c++ anything. I had no idea that this product is not a package is not as easy an easy Diy setup and for some reason, you feel it necessary to marginalize my opinion. I’m sorry - I just grow food for a living and I asked for some help , critiqued the product and somehow you felt it belittled your work.

I’m used to buying something and being able to purchase support, or get help after my investment from the company I bought it from.

My apologies to you both . The nano is working well , the template is running And it looks great and hopefully with some tlc it stays running for me.
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dont have to apologize i think its a breakdown in english to non native english im sure he wasnt telling you to go elsewhere in the manner you thought i think he was merely saying get in touch but i dont think your response of “rudeness” was warranted having collaborated with him for a number of years ive never seen that . sometimes you dont hear the answer you want or expect so promptly but 99% of the time things work out. enjoy the product its very rich in features for the weather enthusiast.

i dont work or am i part of a bigger company i’m retired just commute a lot at present between istanbul and newly purchased home in south east turkey , im native uk english so if you have problems drop a message if im around and have time ill help no problem . glad you like the template thats an outcome of collaboration with other enthusiasts on here without them i wouldnt have achieved or had any remote interest in sharing it to others i would have just done it for my personal interest.

Nanosd is a versatile product amazingly rich in features for the enthusiast and best of all it developed by a single enthusiast not a large company with silicon valley terminology smart marketing gurus sitting behind a screen. rather perplexed it cost you $500 or nigh on but is that tarrifs and import duty ? guess if i paid $500 id want it to make the coffee and prepare my breakfast as well ..have a great festive holiday and don’t hesitate to ask if you need help just be a little polite :D ...brian
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I suspect the $500 cost included a Vantage Vue or Vantage Pro2 System as he apparently didn’t have a weather station at all saying he had” an aging ambient weather IIS website just internally hosted on a small home PC “ so he would have had to obtain a Davis System to use the Nano SD.
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