Meteohub dropping updates to wunderground maybe?

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Meteohub dropping updates to wunderground maybe?

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All my sensors are reporting fine. It will report to wunderground for 12 hours or so fine then my all of a sudden my station drops off wunderground and will come back after a few hours. When it comes back on most of the history is there but some is missing data. Check out wunderground zipcode 88352 and look for Vines2Pines. It may not be reporting at the moment but when it does, look at the history and some data is missing.

Does meteohub not update networks if it is recomputing? If this is the case, my meteohub recomputes everyday for some reason!
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If your Meteohub is in the process of rebooting, it is likely it will fail to report that time interval's data to Wunderground. When I had my USB stick fail, my Meteohub was spontaneously rebooting every day or so and then recomputing. Each time that Wunderground data interval during the reboot (5 min interval) was missing.

Edit: If yours is spontaneously rebooting/recomputng, then maybe you need to replace the USB stick. Maybe Ambient would replace it under warranty. BTW, what model USB stick do they provide with their turnkey NSLU2 Meteohub?
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I will get a new one ASAP. Can I get any size? What do I have to put on the stick before I use it or do I just pop a new one in? If the old one is failing I dont want corrupted data off the old one on the new one.

They gave me some funky looking stick, I have never seen one like it before. I will give you the brand when I get home. I think that is what is happening, it is rebooting all the time and thus not reporting.
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Not only is the wunderground site missing data....my station is not even listed....it will pop back on from time to time and then be off for a while.
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They probably gave you a crappy Kingmax brand stick that's really tiny and has no grounding frame (the outer metal shell of the USB plug.) That's what they shipped me, and it failed after about two months of service. The theory on here is that some cheap sticks can't handle the constant read/write activity and minor voltage fluctuations (especially without proper grounding!) and then they get corrupted. You're probably not going to get much of a response from Ambient (if any) but it's certainly worth filing a complaint with them because this seems to happen quite frequently with the USB sticks they provide.

You can purchase any 2GB or 4GB stick (must be one of those two sizes), although I would stick to a reputable brand and avoid their cheapest models. You can probably find a good 2GB stick at your local computer store for about $25, if not cheaper.

To install Meteohub on the new stick, go to the Downloads section of this site and download both the appropriate-size NSLU2 Meteohub USB Stick Image for your stick size, and if you're using Windows you will also need the dd for Windows program to write the disk image onto the USB stick. Consult the manual for the precise instructions, and also for how to back-up your current data from the old stick (preferably via rsync, but also able to be done via network file sharing) and then restore it to the new stick.

With regards to Weather Underground, stations are removed from their active list if no data is received for several hours. This way if someone is viewing the regional map old data from a non-responsive station isn't being displayed along with current data. You can still access your individual station page even if it doesn't show up in the regional list. After your station resumes sending data to WU, it can take several hours for their lists to re-populate with your station listed again, but the data is being received and added to your station history even before it returns to the regional list.
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The manual says I can make a disk by sticking the USB sticks in the back of the NSLU2 or by using some roadkill program. It does not mention the DD program you mentioned. Which I did download but was thoroghly confused with it.

What about my data....can I use the backup feature in the web application and restore to it once up and running? Same with my settings?
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You can use the backup settings and the application data back up. Instead of the application back up, you can also copy the monthly folders found under the weather folder in your samba drive to your computer and then copy them back to your new stick.

I've used the NSLU2 to make the thumb drive from the RAR file. It takes a while.
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I just am not sure of the process.....I downloaded the RAR file and my computer cant open it. I downloaded the DD program and when I open it all I get is a black screen with letters on it. No instructions on what to do.
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The manual has complete directions for making the thumb drive on the NSLU2. You will need a second thumb drive -- 256 MB is big enough -- to hold the RAR file while the NSLU2 makes the new thumb drive in the other USB port.
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I made the disk via the instructions in the manual with diskimage....all went well however, when I insert the new disk and turn it on, I can not access it through my browser at any IP so I am back to the old disk.

Are these files that are put on the disk viewable in windows if I put the stick in my computer?
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If you tried to access your Meteohub through the 192.168.1.77 IP, is your computer on that subnet or is your netmask set wide enough, e.g. 255.255.0.0, to include it if the computer is on another subnet? Also If you have a software firewall, is it set to trust that IP?
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All of my things are 192.168.....

But I could not access it using any of those.


I put the old factory disk in and I can access it on 192.168.1.101
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Maybe I should use the CLONE button in meteohub and create the new disk?
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CLONE doesn't really work (see previous discussions in the forum), and in that case you'd also be cloning the corrupted files that are probably the underlying cause of your problems, rather that installing fresh files.

Although you say all your local systems are on 192.168, that's not the entire subnet -- a subnet has three parts (e.g. 192.168.0 or 192.168.1) -- if those don't match then you won't be able to locate the Meteohub on your network without a few tweaks to your settings (although you should *always* be able to reach it at 192.168.1.77 if things are running properly, regardless of your network settings.)

When you put the new USB stick into the Meteohub and boot it up, does it make all the expected diagnostic beeps and boops that the old stick makes? (There should be a long low tone, then a 30 second pause, then a morse-code style beeping of the IP address.)

For RAR files on Windows machines you need an application that can extract that compression format, such as jZip RAR is similar to ZIP, but uses a different compression algorithm.
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I think I am at 192.168.1 becasue I reach it with the old stick in at 192.168.1.101. When I IP Scan, I show meteiohub at both 192.168.1.101 and at 192.168.1.77 with the old stick in. Should I format my new stick and try the disk image again and then fire it up on the new stick and IP scan again to see where it is?

It seemed to me I got a series of beeps....it beeped for about a minute and then I got the low tone one last.
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