Hourly tweet service isn’t working anymore **solved**

[weerwantijdijk]

Since yesterday evening my hourly tweets aren’t sending every hour anymore, but every three hours now?? I’ve nothing changed, it just happened between 20.00-21.00 h. I’ve updated my MB pro today and still no fix. The test function is working normally; so I don’t have any options left. Please can someone look into that, thanks in advance.

[weerwantijdijk]

It looks like a problem with the services, see attachment. Maybe Boris can see what is wrong?

[Mattk]

Those red crosses can mean successive tab changes between the services tab and other tabs (especially with WoW) as each time the unit will try and send the services, it is not necessarily a problem with the service/s.

[weerwantijdijk]

I understand that, but how can I fix the hourly tweets again, can you give me a solution for the problem please.
And why it works for months in a row and suddenly it stops and their seems to be a conflict between Twitter service an the Wow updates?

[weerwantijdijk]

By the way, I tried testing this morning with the Twitter service and that didn’t work also; see the message in the attachment. It has something to do with duplicates

[wvdkuil]

In the past to many twitter messages were so similar that it became "spamming your followers' timelines".

Since March 23 the ban on "duplicate" or "identical" tweets is even more strict. Also "very similar tweets" are now considered identical. So if the weather does not change that much in one hour, twitter rejects the tweet. This will happen more often in autumn and spring when the weather is almost identical from hour to hour.
Checking your weather history at https://www.wunderground.com/personal-w ... 76#history reveals that the one-hour tweets could have been considered "very similar".

Explanation here: https://www.boostability.com/twitter-cr ... ate-tweets
Or use Google with twitter refuses duplicate

Conclusion:
The red cross for WOW is already explained by Mattk, it will always be there when you have visited the "services" tab shortly before. There is no "conflict between Twitter service an the Wow updates" .

The duplicate problem is not a Meteobridge problem. And it will not go away as long as the weather does not change enough every hour.

Wim

[G4MHJ]

So, by making the posts less frequent should help with that theory? I was going to suggest a 3 hourly post then realised that isn't an option (only 2 or 6 hourly). I used to use WD and that was working up to 7 days ago. That also had the ability to post a second post daily for a forecast as well as hourly weather data.

[wvdkuil]

So, by making the posts less frequent should help with that theory? I was going to suggest a 3 hourly post then realised that isn't an option (only 2 or 6 hourly). I used to use WD and that was working up to 7 days ago. That also had the ability to post a second post daily for a forecast as well as hourly weather data.

Two and three hour periods will help, as @weerwantijdijk twitter list example the periods are not always every three hours, some two hour periods occur also. Maybe adding extra fields will help also.

One can select in the twitter pull down before/after: every full hour, every 2nd full hour, every 3rd full hour.

Wim

[weerwantijdijk]

In addition to my recent info, the tweets now sending every three hours, although you saw more tweets in the timeline. My settings are still “every hour” but somehow the system accepts only a tweet every third hour. I only don’t understand why this suddenly appeared. I’m using the tweets “every hour” for more then a year now without any problem, until the other evening

[wvdkuil]

In addition to my recent info, the tweets now sending every three hours, although you saw more tweets in the timeline. My settings are still “every hour” but somehow the system accepts only a tweet every third hour. I only don’t understand why this suddenly appeared. I’m using the tweets “every hour” for more then a year now without any problem, until the other evening

AFAIK, it is not the Meteobridge who accepts or rejects the tweets. It is the twitter-server.
Meteobridge only displays the message returned.

Wim

[wvdkuil]

It seems to work again, not regularly but more frequent then 1 every 3 hours, also at other sites: http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35351.0

[weerwantijdijk]

Yesterday evening it looked like repaired, more or less. But this morning same song again; once every three hours.
Thanks wvdkuil for the update, indeed it looks like more weather-boys and girls are having this problem when using Twitter.
I've send a tweet to @twittersupport, but of cause no reaction.
Hopefully there will be more reactions, so they can fix this issue; hope is a fine feeling

[GuisboroughWx]

Hello Guys, I am seeing the same problem, I selected 'just after every 3rd full hour' this seemed to work fine for a while then stopped. The extract below is what I posted on another twitter issue within this forum.

Hi I am a Meteobridge Pro user which is an excellent tool for transmitting weather obs via Twitter. Sometime in the past, date and year unknown Twitter changed it's operating policy, understandably for all for the right reasons -

Twitter’s specific instructions for schedulers and automation tools read as follows:

“Do not (and do not allow your users to) simultaneously post identical or substantially similar content to multiple accounts.”

And:

“Posting duplicative or substantially similar content, replies, or mentions over multiple accounts you control, or creating duplicate or substantially similar accounts, with or without the use of automation, is never allowed.”

Recently I have updated my Meteobridge SW Version: to Meteobridge 3.8 (Oct 22 2018, build 12418), FW 1.4 2018-10-27 and since this update I am receiving 21:26:46 Error: 2018-10-27 21:26:44 can not post tweet (duplicate) (no more tries) therefore, I am now having difficulty in using Twitter for any of my observations or alerts from my @GuisboroughWx account and as far as I am aware I am not sending duplicate info.

It now looks like there are few of us seeing similar issues and I am not sure if we can resolve this issue easily?

Kind regards Paul @GuisboroughWx

[weerwantijdijk]

This what I found on Twitter policy about automated tweets:

B. Automated Tweets

1. Posting automated Tweets

Automated Tweets that cross-post outside information: You may post automated Tweets based on sources of outside information — such as an RSS feed, weather data, etc. — as long as you are sufficiently authorized to publish such information.

Other automated Tweets (excluding mentions or replies): Provided you comply with all other rules, you may post automated Tweets for entertainment, informational, or novelty purposes. As a reminder, accounts posting duplicative, spammy, or otherwise prohibited content may be subject to suspension.


My English isn't that well, but it seems like weather data is allowed, so if Twitter is blocking our hourly tweets, it looks like they are "bending" their own rules.

[wvdkuil]

I tested the twitter function with/without Meteobridge the last few days.

After the first day using Meteobridge tweet functionality, the tweets were blocked as duplicates.
There were less then 24 tweets, but they were already considered similar.
It seems to me that my tweets are compared to all tweets (ever) done by the Meteobridge script.
And most of us are using a very similar data string, more or less the same as the example from the wiKi.

I wrote my own PHP-tweet script and got my own 4 Twitter-keys. It is tested for a few days and it was not blocked until now.
I removed all test tweets and will let it run https://twitter.com/sluispark for a few days to see if it get blocked.

But I do not expect it to be blocked, as for example https://twitter.com/saratogaWX also has its own script and his data is also similar.
Different to the "standard" Meteobridge is the use of "current conditions" text, more detailed info such as " Wind:WSW 0->16mph "
He also inserts a forecast-tweet every three hours, but some Meteobridge users are doing the same and still are blocked.

It is still unclear why Twitter is blocking some Automated Tweets and not others. They probably changed their algorithms on Oct 22 with these problems as a side-effect.
Question: Did anyone get an answer from Twitter-support about this?

Wim