WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue. **solved**

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WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue. **solved**

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Hi,
I am using a WF Tempest after many years of using an SWS but the lightning sensor although recognised is not being mapped. A major problem as I send that data to Brians fantastic Aurora template.
I really do not know what to try to solve the issue.Any guidance would be much appreciated.
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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samsonwilliams wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 5:44 am Hi,
I am using a WF Tempest after many years of using an SWS but the lightning sensor although recognised is not being mapped. A major problem as I send that data to Brians fantastic Aurora template.
I really do not know what to try to solve the issue.Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Regards.
Hello thanks for compliment I can help you out , all i need is a one time access to your meteobridge device admin screen so I can locate the weatherflow lightning output and a url for website(if available) , i can then provide you with a specific weatherflow lightning module custom to your output.

ps be patient lightning can be tedious waiting for a strike to be generated or you can facetime and I can get you too create some false lightning strikes if it is accessible if not then a bit of patience is required..brian..(aka weather34).please note time differences im in Istanbul Turkiye..
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

Post by HighWay »

Hi guys

Sorry that I mess in your conversation , but I have similar issue.
Lighting strikes are not properly shown on the W34 template.

So this message could be directed to weatherist34:

The output from meteobridge "min/max data"

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But on the template above data is now shown.
If you need an access to my MB , or/and template/ please let me know I will provide the details.

Another thing related to the MB/Template is that my Rain data coming from Rain1 , while the template can work only with Rain0. I solved it adding mapping Rain1 -> Rain0 to have the rain data onto the template. This is not something important , but if you plan some future changes , you may consider this information.
rain0!1rate -> rain0rate rain rate (hourly)
rain0!1total -> rain0total rain fall (total amount)

Thanks

Regards,

Victor
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good morning

lets deal with lightning then move on to other scenarios

below how I did it before using weatherflow lightning for myself and Chuck who sadly is no longer around

below we need to assign (mapping) the lightning output to lgt0 then create a separate small API to be triggered every 60 seconds for example

//https://yourdomain.com/yourfolder/mbrid ... htning.php?d=[lgt0energy-act:--] [lgt0dist-act:--] [lgt0dist-age:--] [lgt0total-daysum.0:--] [lgt0total-monthsum.0:--] [lgt0total-yearsum.0:--] [lgt0total-sum10.0:--]

all this is already present in the template as shown below ..confused ? drop me an email with some meteobridge admin login details
brian34design"at"me.com

you need to assign the lightning mapping first then once we have a file with data being generated called weather34-lightning.txt then i can make the module but essentially we need to see data being generated.

//Lightning Data for weatherflow Air Only !
// in meteobridge services upload every 1 minute(60 seconds)
//https://yourdomain.com/yourfolder/mbrid ... ing.php?d=[lgt0energy-act:--] [lgt0dist-act:--] [lgt0dist-age:--] [lgt0total-daysum.0:--] [lgt0total-monthsum.0:--] [lgt0total-yearsum.0:--] [lgt0total-sum10.0:--]

//0 [lgt0energy-act:--]
//1 [lgt0dist-act:--]
//2 [lgt0dist-age:--]
//3 [lgt0total-daysum.0:--]
//4 [lgt0total-monthsum.0:--]
//5 [lgt0total-yearsum.0:--]
//6 [lgt0total-sum10.0:--]



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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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Hi Brian

Thank you for the detailed reply.
Sorry for the late answer , I was needed some time to test these details.
As result I am much confused than before :)

So when I trigger manually from a browser
//https://yourdomain.com/yourfolder/mbrid ... htning.php?d=[lgt0energy-act:--] [lgt0dist-act:--] [lgt0dist-age:--] [lgt0total-daysum.0:--] [lgt0total-monthsum.0:--] [lgt0total-yearsum.0:--] [lgt0total-sum10.0:--]

It appeared working , despite in the template I have weird data.
The output of weather34-lightning.txt have data, but not sure how correct is it. Seems in the second position of the string, it gave me random data . Here is the output :

tail -F /var/www/html/MKII/mbridge/weather34-lightning.txt 2>/dev/null
-- 10.0 15 0 28 28 0-- 10.0 9 0 28 28 0

I am triggering above command thru MB , each minute , but sometimes the output above is only "0" . When I increased the push period to 2 minutes , it actually generate data approximately on each 10 minutes :
root@weather:~# tail -F /var/www/html/MKII/mbridge/weather34-lightning.txt 2>/dev/null
-- 10.0 18 0 28 28 0-- 10.0 6 0 28 28 00 <- Here still additional "0"appearing after the next push.

The view from the template looks like :
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So only correct data is still "Last strike distance" and when the last strike occurred.
Sensors mapping appearing correct , but there not so many options left according lighting data mapping. I gave up :)

I will send my MB access data to your email in few minutes.
Feel free to redirect MB data to your template for test, or if you need- I can create for you an account to access the hosting server for more details.

Many thanks for your efforts to write me this kind of manual above ! I appreciate it.

Regards,

Victor
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good morning believe it or not the data is correct according your meteobridge history screen see below. i started to compile the module not finished yet just basic at the moment but by end of week should be so ill email you a simple update when its finished . ideally can you make any false strikes ? if not just have to be patient..

have a good day Brian
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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Thanks Brian,

Looking forward for the next template update :wink:

The data above is correct , I have only these lighting strikes so far , because I recently migrated my database , and lost the past records from this sensor.

Regards,

Victor
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good morning

I really need to see some real live data to confirm everything works as expected i can simulate by putting in false data but we need a timestamp output from your meteobridge output so it may take a while . the module is completed color coded etc but just need to confirm all is good with real data .

chart data will come when we have some real data .

as it is this morning orange icon when lightning is detected , grey icon when nothing detected.. have a good day brian.
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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Hi Brian,

We expecting rain during the next two days , as I can see on the weather forecast , here will be also lighting strikes, I hope.
The new template looks fine , and I am looking forward to test it :)

Have a nice day !

Regards,

Victor
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good morning

ok thats good lets hope , everything is compiled now charts etc just need to see it with realtime data from meteobridge , once thats confirmed ok then I send you it and send a simple update to Boris , there are other small minor changes but nothing significant and most probably wouldn't notice..

anyway this is the outcome module for theme 8/9 .. feel free to email me if you see any lightning activity in your vicinity I can capture the data on my iPhone if Im not at home ..brian



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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good morning I will send on the update later today(monday 20th) . i worked out why i couldnt reproduce a valid timestamp of last strike on your system ..Its not a weatherflow ! its an ecowitt device , i recall past issues of reproducing a valid timestamp for last strike on those devices. So after scratching my head for a few days it dawned on me . anyway final outcome below .


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Good morning Brian,

This is great news for ecowitt users.
Looking forward to test template update, and will post here the results.
Many thanks for your efforts to have it done

Regards,

Victor
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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good evening update sent via email

contains other minor updates and chart updates for lightning etc..brian ..let us know how it goes give a few days for charts to build if you have lightning activity ..
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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue

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Good morning, Brian

Thank you for the latest update.
Yesterday I was able to collect lot of lighting strikes , because we had all day thunderstorm activity in my area.
First, I would start with the fact that was necessary to mod my WH57 sensor. I was noticed that it missing lot of strikes including the nearest ones.
I was not surprised to see that Ecowitt tried to correct the problem using additional capacitor in the receiver AMS AS3935 - L/C coil. Typical DIY sensor , as other Ecowitt stuff. So I replaced receiver coil and tuned capacitors with resonance meter as result - I got much reliable sensor. It no longer missing strikes , even I put the sensor sensitivity to "low".

In the template I got this data :
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So , lets say now it working pretty good, as I compared the Lighting data with blitzortung lighting source.
This morning I uploaded the latest template update and will wait for the next lighting activity.

Regards,

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Re: WFTempest lightning sensor mapping issue. **solved**

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good evening

good stuff always a resonant tuned circuit or a resonant antenna will produce a lower noise floor , better signal . good to see you took the time to experiment with good results. tuned antennas are essential for optimum performance it was essential in my ham radio days at all frequencies poorly tuned antenna arrays gave disastrous results.

i will forward on the May update to Boris this week many thanks for your assistance ...brian
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